I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks, Min
Hi Min, I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong. Christian On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks,
Min
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Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely. For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.) Jan PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-). On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks,
Min
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PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
Thanks.. Everyone is welcome to join in and contribute ;) On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) <jan.vlcinsky@cad-programs.com> wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely. For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.) Jan
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks,
Min
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I think it would be pretty trivial to setup an Amazon EC2 instance running a BaseX server. Probably just need a Linux core with Java installed. This could be shared as a public AMI. best *P On 12/8/10 2:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely.
For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.)
Jan
PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com <mailto:christian.gruen@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com <mailto:min123@gmail.com>> wrote: > I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The > question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the > App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for > indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does > have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, > the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<, >>, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor > (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX? > > Thanks, > > Min > > _______________________________________________ > BaseX-Talk mailing list > BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> > https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk > > _______________________________________________ BaseX-Talk mailing list BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk
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I agree. For better performance, I would recommend EBS based instance as it has better disk performance, not the traditional instance store based on S3. I had in past some issues with performance of PostgreSQL, which was relatively poor. But I can confirm, that BaseX works on AWS EC2 instance with @root-device="instance-store" @type="m1.small" virtualization="paravirtual". I hope to find time to turn it to EBS based instance store some time. Jan On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it would be pretty trivial to setup an Amazon EC2 instance running a BaseX server. Probably just need a Linux core with Java installed. This could be shared as a public AMI. best *P
On 12/8/10 2:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely.
For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.)
Jan
PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks,
Min
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Jan: Would also like an EBS based EC2 AMI available but time constraints as well.... my main issue in that I have not configured an BaseX server as stand alone (wrapped in applications). What do I need on the server (besides the core linux). JRE, Tomcat(?), which baseX jar? Could use elasticserver.com to generate the AMI (so could be used for other virtualization platforms as well). thanks *P On 12/15/10 3:09 PM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
I agree. For better performance, I would recommend EBS based instance as it has better disk performance, not the traditional instance store based on S3. I had in past some issues with performance of PostgreSQL, which was relatively poor.
But I can confirm, that BaseX works on AWS EC2 instance with @root-device="instance-store" @type="m1.small" virtualization="paravirtual". I hope to find time to turn it to EBS based instance store some time.
Jan
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com <mailto:pascal.heus@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think it would be pretty trivial to setup an Amazon EC2 instance running a BaseX server. Probably just need a Linux core with Java installed. This could be shared as a public AMI. best *P
On 12/8/10 2:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely.
For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.)
Jan
PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com <mailto:christian.gruen@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com <mailto:min123@gmail.com>> wrote: > I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The > question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the > App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for > indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does > have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, > the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<, >>, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor > (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX? > > Thanks, > > Min > > _______________________________________________ > BaseX-Talk mailing list > BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> > https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk > > _______________________________________________ BaseX-Talk mailing list BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk
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Hi Pascal I am using Amazon EC2 Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty AMI built by Eric Hammond. It was quite quickly installed - finding AMI on AWS, starting, apt-get some current java and that is all. Exchanging BaseX.jars is quite easy, it only might affect related startup scripts, as there are some slight changes in last releases. To run it on server as standalone application you are done quickly, to make it working as a service e requires writting some scripts. Attached are startup scripts, which were created on my other server (dedicated server, managed by Active24.cz). start/stop/status: sudo /etc/init.d/basex start Changing versions of BaseX jar: /opt/basex/version BaseX-6.3.1.jar (trick with modifying link BaseXCurrent.jar) and scripts client and console BaseX runs under user basex, there must be related records in /etc/sudoers to let me, as sadmin user, do the tasks (I do not have root access to that server) Hope, this helps Jan PS: I have never played with elasticserver.com as it was not accessible at the time of my attempts. Another topic to investigate (I would think of building stack Ubuntu - python 2.6 or 2.7 - Nagios - boto2.x - BaseX - Java SDK...) On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com> wrote:
Jan: Would also like an EBS based EC2 AMI available but time constraints as well.... my main issue in that I have not configured an BaseX server as stand alone (wrapped in applications). What do I need on the server (besides the core linux). JRE, Tomcat(?), which baseX jar? Could use elasticserver.com to generate the AMI (so could be used for other virtualization platforms as well). thanks *P
On 12/15/10 3:09 PM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
I agree. For better performance, I would recommend EBS based instance as it has better disk performance, not the traditional instance store based on S3. I had in past some issues with performance of PostgreSQL, which was relatively poor.
But I can confirm, that BaseX works on AWS EC2 instance with @root-device="instance-store" @type="m1.small" virtualization="paravirtual". I hope to find time to turn it to EBS based instance store some time.
Jan
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com>wrote:
I think it would be pretty trivial to setup an Amazon EC2 instance running a BaseX server. Probably just need a Linux core with Java installed. This could be shared as a public AMI. best *P
On 12/8/10 2:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely.
For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.)
Jan
PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün < christian.gruen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com> wrote:
I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<,
, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX?
Thanks,
Min
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Jan: Suspected it would but easy but thanks for documenting the process, very much appreciated. Elasticserver is quite useful, particularly if you maintain and version your own bundles (though I haven't used this lately). best Pascal On 12/20/10 2:31 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Pascal I am using Amazon EC2 Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty AMI built by Eric Hammond. It was quite quickly installed - finding AMI on AWS, starting, apt-get some current java and that is all. Exchanging BaseX.jars is quite easy, it only might affect related startup scripts, as there are some slight changes in last releases. To run it on server as standalone application you are done quickly, to make it working as a service e requires writting some scripts.
Attached are startup scripts, which were created on my other server (dedicated server, managed by Active24.cz).
start/stop/status: sudo /etc/init.d/basex start
Changing versions of BaseX jar: /opt/basex/version BaseX-6.3.1.jar (trick with modifying link BaseXCurrent.jar)
and scripts client and console
BaseX runs under user basex, there must be related records in /etc/sudoers to let me, as sadmin user, do the tasks (I do not have root access to that server)
Hope, this helps
Jan
PS: I have never played with elasticserver.com <http://elasticserver.com> as it was not accessible at the time of my attempts. Another topic to investigate (I would think of building stack Ubuntu - python 2.6 or 2.7 - Nagios - boto2.x - BaseX - Java SDK...)
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com <mailto:pascal.heus@gmail.com>> wrote:
Jan: Would also like an EBS based EC2 AMI available but time constraints as well.... my main issue in that I have not configured an BaseX server as stand alone (wrapped in applications). What do I need on the server (besides the core linux). JRE, Tomcat(?), which baseX jar? Could use elasticserver.com <http://elasticserver.com> to generate the AMI (so could be used for other virtualization platforms as well). thanks *P
On 12/15/10 3:09 PM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
I agree. For better performance, I would recommend EBS based instance as it has better disk performance, not the traditional instance store based on S3. I had in past some issues with performance of PostgreSQL, which was relatively poor.
But I can confirm, that BaseX works on AWS EC2 instance with @root-device="instance-store" @type="m1.small" virtualization="paravirtual". I hope to find time to turn it to EBS based instance store some time.
Jan
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Pascal Heus <pascal.heus@gmail.com <mailto:pascal.heus@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think it would be pretty trivial to setup an Amazon EC2 instance running a BaseX server. Probably just need a Linux core with Java installed. This could be shared as a public AMI. best *P
On 12/8/10 2:24 AM, Jan Vlčinský (CAD) wrote:
Hi Option to have service like BaseX in the cloud would be very nice. I was dreaming about it too. On the other hand, I understand, that resources, being available at cloud solutions like Google Engine, AWS etc. are of quite different kind, that needed for efficient BaseX. When I see flashing of HD LED on my notebook, when performing bigger operations, I know, porting BaseX to any less disk efficient platform would kill the performance completely.
For now, the only option in the cloud is sort of virtual computer (like AWS EC2 etc.)
Jan
PS: Christian - you see, providing great service creates even bigger demand :-).
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Christian Grün <christian.gruen@gmail.com <mailto:christian.gruen@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Min,
I have no idea how much time and effort would have to be spent to support the datastore API. In general, we have spent lots of effort and thoughts into our own storage architecture. It's one of the key factors for the efficiency of BaseX, so I'm not sure if switching to another database backend is such a good idea, not to mention transaction issues, etc. But I might be wrong.
Christian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Min Idzelis <min123@gmail.com <mailto:min123@gmail.com>> wrote: > I realize that BaseX can't be used as-is on the Google App Engine. The > question I have is how much work would it be to get it up and running on the > App Engine's datastore API instead of whatever you are using for > indexing/storage. There is no access to a filesystem. The datastore does > have a concept of hierarchical (parent-child) entities. In the datastore, > the only operations that are supported are: get/put by key, inequality (<, >>, =) filters, and a way to limit results that have a common ancestor > (key). Would this be enough to support BaseX? > > Thanks, > > Min > > _______________________________________________ > BaseX-Talk mailing list > BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> > https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk > > _______________________________________________ BaseX-Talk mailing list BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de <mailto:BaseX-Talk@mailman.uni-konstanz.de> https://mailman.uni-konstanz.de/mailman/listinfo/basex-talk
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participants (4)
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Christian Grün -
Jan Vlčinský (CAD) -
Min Idzelis -
Pascal Heus